[MUSIC] Joining us now is Amelia Armstrong. Amelia's a dog sitter, she dog sits for customers of dog vacay, which we've talked already. Welcome Amelia, it's fantastic to have you with us. Thank you for coming. >> Thank you so much for having me. >> So, my participants and I have been studying what I call matchmaker models, these businesses where entrepreneurs bring buyers and sellers together. Without ever really owning the goods. And they do that in a variety of industries, and in your setting, that's happening in pet sitting of course. You've been a beneficiary of this phenomenon, really, as a pet sitter for DogVacy. So I think my entrepreneurs, many of whom are probably thinking about these matchmaker or marketplace models, would like to know how a seller thinks about that. Could you talk about what it's been like from the very beginning? You signed up, and then what happened? Yeah, so, I mean, I created a profile, which was very similar to like how I would create a social media profile. You upload pictures, you create a description of yourself, and then, at that point, you're live. The people can browse you and request meet and greets; which ishHow the process works. Is that clients or people who own dogs will actually go on there and buy [INAUDIBLE]. Essentially, I put in my hometown or where I currently live, and they search d dog sitters, and I was one of them. I think it started with just a meet and greet. Every job starts with a meet and greet. Which is a situation where you visit the home with the animal, and you meet the owner. And they meet you and it's sort of like a little first date of sorts. >> [LAUGH] But with a dog. A dog and the owner, right? >> A dog and the owner, right. From my perspective, it was thrilling, in the sense that I could, you know, get to know this animal and his pet owner. And it's usually somebody I really like, and somebody that has similar tendencies to me. And yeah, so that's kind of how it starts. >> And then what happened? Did you got a lot of work, you got a little bit of work, you did a lot of meet and greets? But none of them panned out, you know what was the experience like? >> Yeah, than I think. >> Not every meet and greet will turn into a job. Because sometimes we're just looking to add someone to their list of considering, you know considerations, like people to go to in case they go on vacation. But I would say, seven out of ten on average turned into a job, eventually. But I don't really know how to measure the success of that, or how much hassle that is for the payoff. But, for me it was fine, I didn't mind. There are times when meet and greets can last, you know it takes 15-20 minutes to get there, and then they can last an hour. And you know, by the time you get home it's a good three hour trip. For. >> That's a big commitment and do you get paid for the meet and greet? >> You do not, no, and I suppose you know, I think other people would mind, but I didn't mind so much. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean my time is my own, I can spend it because I'm a freelancer, I could spend it however I want to, and I just enjoyed myself. >> So, what have you found you like about this whole arrangement with Dogvcay? >> I like the fact that I can make connections, make relationships. I, being new to the area, I'm definitely looking for that. But just in general, I'm kind of the person who is personable, who wants personal connections; and I don't exclude animals from that. >> [LAUGH] So connections with dogs are a good thing, right? Exactly. >> Yeah. >> It's almost like my local family and I, it's, just, I find it really joyful to be around dogs. It just brings me, for lack of a better term, like inner peace. And so I, that's primarily why I do it, is because whenever I see a dog, and spend time with a dog I feel joy. And, then beyond that I suppose I just, you know from a practical standpoint it's a little bit of extra money on the side. I like that, I guess. Who doesn't like money on the side? But I I don't do it for the money, I generally do it to make a connection or to form a relationship. >> So, that's pretty cool. What are the things that maybe you don't like about it? >> I mean, the other day you know, I had a walking job so, eventhough it was 15 minutes from my home >> It takes me 15 minutes to get there. It's a half an hour walk, ten dollars per half an hour. And then 15 minutes home, it's almost an hour of my time. >> For ten bucks. >> For ten dollars, and then they take 20% off the top, so. >> [SOUND] Don't spend it all at once, Amelia. [LAUGH] >> [LAUGH] I know. >> And I'm sort of, you know, Interrupting my day, and there's something to be said for the efficiency of that, and I understand that that's perhaps not ideal. So, there are situations when it can get inefficient, and become more of a hassle. >> So, you get ten dollars for something like an hour's work in the example you talked about. Yeah. >> Who set the price at ten dollars? Does the market set that price? Or you set that price? Or DogVacy sets that price? How does that work? >> Yeah, well originally I just looked on the site to see what everyone else was charging. And that's how I essentially started my pricing, was whatever everyone else was charging. And so it's a half an hour walk for ten dollars, not including travel time. So that's what everyone else is charging. >> That's the going price? >> So I was like, okay. And it sounds reasonable. But once you really think it through it's really ten dollars our really less given the amount of the 20% they take away. So it's, unless it's a sitting gig where you're earning $35 a night sometimes $50 if there are two dogs. >> So those are better. >> Those are better. I mean, you know, certainly if it's close to home and the home is nice, a place that I'd like to stay, and it can be better for sure. >> So, are you able to get as much as you like? >> You know, I find myself getting a meet and greet request, maybe a couple times a month which is fine. It turns into, you know, I have regular clients that I walk for, certainly past clients that I've sat for, who will come to me without a meet and greet now. I've done the work to, so for most relationships, and it's. So now about a new client comes in every, you know, maybe once a month I would say on average, like I would book a booking once a month. Which is fine with me. It's, honestly, it's for the dogs. It sounds. >> Crazy, but its, I feel like they need me and they are stuck at home and they need, they need me to care for. So >> And you are happy to do it?. >> I am. >> Sign me up. >> So the other part of your life, at least another major part of your life is being a photographer, right. >> Yes. >> And from the looks of your website, you're a very talented photographer. I might say. >> Thank you. >> Have you thought about using a similar surface. For example to get photo assignments? I don't know if they exist. >> Yeah. I mean, I generally photograph people in a documentary style. So I've often thought about dogs and families too. I document families in sort of documentary unposed. Day in the life type style. And often the dogs are at these homes that I photograph for. So I have thought about doing little dogumentaries which is. >> Dogumentaries did you say? [LAUGH] [CROSSTALK] >> Yes, I know. [LAUGH] because they have such personality, and so I thought in the back of my mind, you know, how amazing it would be to sort of put together a short little video made up of many clips, telling the story of an animal. Well, this is really cool. Yeah. I want to say thank you so much for doing this. You're taking, you know, sometime out of your busy day. And I really appreciate that, and I think my participants are going to really like kind of having a sense for what it's like, for a somebody who's a supplier to one of these platform or matchmaker or market place. So, it's really kind of you, Amelia. Thank you so much for coming along. >> You're welcome. [MUSIC]